Ayurveda vs Western Medicines, Dr. B. M. Hegde
Dr. B. M. Hegde speaks on the idea of how the ayurvedic medicines are far better for the human body than western medicines. He talks about important theories on how the human body actually functions with a given environment and how Ayurveda blends itself with the human body.
Dr. Hegde speaks about the importance of meta medicines which would eventually decide the health factor of humans on earth.
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Dr. B. M. Hegde is an Indian medical scientist, educationist, and author. He is the former Vice Chancellor of Manipal University, Co-Chairman of the TAG-VHS Diabetes Research Centre, Chennai and the chairman of Bharatiya Vidya Bhavan, Mangalore. He has authored several books on medical practice and ethics. He is also the Editor in Chief of the medical journal, Journal of the Science of Healing Outcomes. He was awarded the Dr. B. C. Roy Award in 1999. In 2010, he was honored with the Padma Bhushan, one of India’s highest civilian awards. His articles and ideas in medicine are appreciated internationally and his passion for educating people is everlasting.
Transcript
good afternoon everybody can you hear me
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at the back well friends it is nice
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seeing you this afternoon and you must
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have been tired at the fag end of the
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day hearing so many speeches either
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right now I’m not going to bore you they
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want me to talk on a new subject called
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Western medicine which they call as
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modern medicine we say we the ancient
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Indian system of medicine to know the
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difference you must first know the
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difference between human body how it
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works and how it can be mended when it
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goes wrong science is change if this
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does not change it is not science
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anything that doesn’t change is religion
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what changes is science and the science
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is today’s science doesn’t agree with
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what we all learnt and you still learn
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in colleges the conventional physics
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chemistry and biology but the new
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physics quantum physics has uprooted the
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whole thing and that makes it easier for
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you to understand the human body now we
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think in the Western medicine in Western
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medical non science we think human body
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is made up of different parts like you
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know you have automobile engineers
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mechanical engineers with different
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parts you make a car first fix the
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chassis then the body then the engine
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and things like that that’s how it is
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made so that is not how the human body
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is made if you understand in
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evolutionary biology you are the one
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cell one single nucleated cell when you
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made only mothers who on the first day
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that’s called the zygote the first
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nucleated cell and this cell one cell
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divides and divides and divides and
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today you are a colony of 120 trillion
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such cells and each one of itself is a
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human being capable of doing all that
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you do so much so you are not I your V
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you’re a colony of so many people
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this difference please remember that
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when you say I and that I that feeling
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illness starts when you have we that
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feeling wellness comes in and this is
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where no human being is independent
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remember that however big you are how
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much money you have you still have
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dependent on others because inside your
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body for every single cell that is human
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you have ten times cells which are germ
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cells without these germ cells you
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cannot survive at all between the mouth
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and the anus you are 10 to the power 13
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germs and in the mouth you have 3
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billion germs and if even a few germs
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die you get completely disorganized and
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DC starts there
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so germs are not our enemies germs are
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our friends in short we are germs for
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120 trillion cells you have 360 trillion
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germ cells and we you know we inherit
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from our parents because we say oh you
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are like your father you’re like your
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mother etc the inheritance from genetic
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inheritance from the parents is just
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just 23,000 human cells in a genome but
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you have same genome you have two and a
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half trillion germs genes metabolic
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German ohms wire in ohms and all kinds
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of things and you can imagine the
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contribution from our parents to you he
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is twenty three thousand divided by two
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and a half trillion so hardly matters so
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it is not the genes that run your body
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as you think in the olden science in the
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new biology it is the environment that
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runs it that is where it is very
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important to know the environment is
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very important for disease or disease
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correction or treatment now in the
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Western medicine what we do is we have
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quick fixes supposing you have a disease
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immediately we give a quick freeze and
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we think it cures the problem no it
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doesn’t actually it creates another
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problem in short I always tell my
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students there is no pill for every ill
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but there is an ill following every pill
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did you get this that’s called adverse
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drug
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as a matter of fact audit now shows in
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the West that the leading cause of death
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is not cancer or heart attack but
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adverse drug reactions is called ADR
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because we know in the westerns of non
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science one drug for one disease under
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ideal circumstances which is called
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evidence-based medicine but
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unfortunately in a patient we do not
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give one drug some of the patients if
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you see it’s a laundry list of drugs
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about 1815 drugs and there is no science
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to say what happens when you combine two
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drugs but you know how people are alive
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a study showed that when you give one
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tablet or patient and tell him take it
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daily the remembrance or the compliance
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is only 73% 27% forget they don’t take
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correctly now when you make it two
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tablets a day it falls to 42% when you
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make it more than three tablets a day it
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comes down to 22% which means a 78% of
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people whom you prescribe this multiple
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laundry list they don’t take those
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medicines if they did they wouldn’t be
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here with every single penny has like
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for example I will give you a very small
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thing every painkiller that you take
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what’s called NSAIDs non-steroidal
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anti-inflammatory drugs can give you a
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heart attack up to five years from the
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time you take the medicine up to next
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five years you can get a heart attack
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somebody says oh he is fine he is very
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healthy why did you get a heart attack
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he must have been taking every day non
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it’s a pain killing drugs if you have a
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headache one pop a pill if you have a
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backache you pop a pill and this also
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damages the kidney one of the commonest
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causes for renal dialysis today
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here the NSAIDs which damage the kidney
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in short the the linear reduction is
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science of the West
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reductionism I I don’t think I follow
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you people I should fix way what is the
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direction we have to look at the human
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body as a whole
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you can’t take a bit and examine it like
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for example somebody gets a cancer what
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do we do we take the biopsy the cancer a
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bit to the cancer and then smear it on
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the classmate by then the cells are all
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distorted then
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and stain into the years in him
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excellent so you poison the cells and
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then when the dries up you put it on the
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microscope and look at it now the cells
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look horrible because they’re distorted
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but you cannot know what that cell is
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because a normal cell and a cancer cell
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work alike remember that I will repeat
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that a normal cell and a cancer cell
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work alike and I don’t know how anybody
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can kill a cancer cell without killing
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the normal cell I will give you an
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analogy supposing a bird comes into your
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house a new bird comes into your house
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to know what the bird is where did it
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come from where is it going what is
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going to happen to the pill but what we
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do in the Western science is kill the
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bird by upset and then put it in the
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microscope and study the cells and say
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this word came from so and so that’s
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exactly what we do in cancer when we say
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we have a cancer which we describe as
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metastatic anaplastic means that that
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Citra doesn’t tell you anything about
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the cancer so a great biologist Nobel
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laureate albert szent-gyorgyi wrote I
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quote I do not know what cancer is
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because cancer cell works like an
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exactly normal cell and I do not know
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the distinction between the two and I
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don’t know how to treat a cancer cell
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without killing the normal cell see this
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is where we are in western reductions
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medicine come to our way there the
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mother of all medical wisdoms in the
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world probably one of the oldest along
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with various other systems in the East
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like Chinese Tibetan and also a Tibetan
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of course is a part of the Indian system
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but also the Egyptian system now all
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these systems started long long ago when
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this reductionist science did not come
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to us from the West the reductionist
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science started in 1742 with that little
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boy 17 year old mathematician in Rene
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Descartes a who say cuchito a ribosome
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because I think I am if he had
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understood it a little later and little
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wider he should have said I am thinking
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and that’s why I am able to live what he
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says is I run this world this is the
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problem with us in reductionist science
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this world in the new quantum physics
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worldview
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it’s much bigger
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and what you can grasp in short quantum
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physicists say we can comprehend much
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more than what we can grasp the usual
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conventional science his duty or five
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senses and that is not the science
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because five senses do not tell you
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anything and what you know in
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conventional science is 5% of this world
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5% and 95% you don’t know but when you
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come to quantum physics you seem to know
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the whole lot and iyer weather is based
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on quantum physics worldview which takes
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into consideration the whole world and
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you know surroundings and this is very
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important to know about anybody’s
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illness or wellness because unless you
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know that you will not be able to
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consider how to treat it or I wouldn’t
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want to use the word treat how to manage
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an illness so when once the human body
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is afflicted with a list we have to find
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out lot of things the most important
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parts of the human body is his
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consciousness which is called the mind
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in simple English and where is the mind
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never mind
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no the mind is not in the brain I just
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want you to remember that most of us
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think the mind is in the brain the mind
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is not in the brain because brain is
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such a small thing it can’t hold brain
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mind mind is a huge
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mind is called consciousness awareness
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in the same sanskrit it is called go
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Chara go Chara Sanskrit is a fantastic
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language which gives you a comprehensive
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idea of the subject go Chara
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could also mean the path on which the
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cows walk but go tara is the awareness
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consciousness and you have your own
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consciousness is a part of the universal
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consciousness and this consciousness
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works in short your human body is just
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mind only so mind is not in the brain
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mind is in the body and now wonder
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physics says matter is energy and energy
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is matter he is equal to em and this was
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known to the Indian with science
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including Ayurveda for thousands of
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years if you if you know the stanza in
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operation it says energy that energy is
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you or energy and the body is energy and
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body is not matter and if any
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subtlest and subtlest and subtlest level
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and I found one day there is no matter
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at all and hun spit at your rights I
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call this as E is equal to M as a
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duality there is no duality between the
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two and when you say it is a duality he
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says I am a child in front of his Indian
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sages who thousands of years ago called
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it as equator and it’s so beautiful he
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says matter is energy energies matter in
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this turns any quotes third stanza but
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here on Thursday Putin emits inside and
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outside of everything
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jerem attend I’m a mature energy moves
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but you all look solid there’s nothing
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solid about you it is only Maya is
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illusion
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your body is an illusion of your mind
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and he says sukshma with a atomic name
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it’s so subtle that nobody can see
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nobody can see an electron why can’t I
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see an electron electronic students why
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can’t I see an electron when you see you
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can’t see God if you go to be a C or a
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MSC then you say God doesn’t exist
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because I can’t see but you have not
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seen an electron and you describe the
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electron in several ways and got Nobel
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Prize you accept that right you can’t
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see an electron because to see anything
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to see you a few photons must leave you
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and hit my retina they don’t like and
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see you I become aware of your existence
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but if one photon leaves an electron it
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no longer becomes electron so nobody can
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see an electron that’s what it says
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sukshma with atomic name do rest them
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when you do not know you don’t know and
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you get the check when you know it’s
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inside you that support energy and this
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energy is you and this energy is the one
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that when it is already we get disease
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when it is normal and very nicely
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balanced you are healthy now this is a
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concept of IRA IRA that doesn’t say
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there is a disease you treat it no it
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says first osseous was the rationale
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preserve the Wellness of the he’ll be
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which is very easy cheap and more
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profitable than treating a disease but
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the Western medicine is after money and
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for everything we want money we want to
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collect money and not to make money and
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make money is our no problem Western
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medical Hippocrates was the father of
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Western medicine said do not to make
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money in the sickroom remember that do
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not make money in the sickroom but to
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what happens if you are ill you go to a
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corporate hospital you see you will come
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out with or without a disease but
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without your properties America is
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feeling the pinch in a big way and now
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English NHS where free medicine is given
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is in real trouble energy is almost coal
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collapsing so they want Eastern medicine
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to come into these places that is why I
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our weather is becoming very popular in
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the West I just came back from Germany a
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week ago
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where Germans and all the East are eight
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Eastern European nations they want to
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have Ayurvedic hospitals in their
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country so they had called this meeting
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to get ideas as to how to go about it
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and you will be surprised in January we
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have a meeting in London and in April we
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have got a meeting in Brussels so all
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these places there now because money has
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become very very good now there is no
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limit for Western medicine quick fixes
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supposing everybody wants a heart
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transplant to be given to a heart
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patient where will you get this money
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way the money from everybody wants a
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liver transplant or liver disease
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thinking that human body is a machine
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like the motorcar where if this
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carburettor is gone you put a new
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carburetor that does not happen in the
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human body you will be surprised to know
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that this one cell that I told you that
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you wear when your mother’s womb that is
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called a zygote that one cell divides
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into 120 trillion cells but the beauty
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is it does not fully divide only a
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partial wall comes in the cell and one
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becomes to another partial wall comes to
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be comes for another partial wall comes
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is 8 16 32 and so on and so forth so
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much so at the end of the day when you
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are 120 trillion cells inside you you
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are what is called a since CTM you are
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just one sheet and all cells are
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connected you would be surprised you
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take a brain cylinders genome and a
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heart cell it is genome they’re
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identical to cells one in the brain one
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in the heart might have identical do you
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know which gives me a new idea which I
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am just having an idea I have just put
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it as a hypothesis and published it that
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if this happens we can we do not have to
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get someone else’s organ to transplant
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we can get our own organs and Transplant
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it to us and those organs can grow like
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for example you need a small bit to the
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liver for liver transplant
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someone else it may be from your mother
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father husband wife or child anybody in
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stir that we probably can take a bitter
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than llama liver from your own part your
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own body and then transplant it to you
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other this is part of the liver I am
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just saying this speculation because
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we’re all related these are all
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connected and it’s not different cells
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that you are 123 M cells the same cell
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which is divided but because of what is
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called cosmic you know morphic resonance
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morphic resonance the word i do not want
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to explain because it is a very
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complicated word morphic resonance gives
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you the the blueprint of every molecule
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to an atom so you know when the energy
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and matter interchange in the human body
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they do it 1,024 times a minute this
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called the planks for 1,024 times a
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second max one constant and that means
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each time the energy becomes matter they
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energy knows the blueprint of the matter
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and if you take this energy to change
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the blueprint to a normal body it
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becomes out this called quantum healing
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if anyone ever want to know more about
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quantum healing one of the processes of
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quantum physics in in Eugene in the
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United States has written a book called
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quantum doctor if you read that it is a
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very nice book which tells you how to
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cure yourself and this is the old
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Ayurvedic system because our way the
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believes in a human body as a closed
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system in systems biology because you
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engineers understand systems biology
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closed system is a system where
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everything happens on it is not like a
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geezer you switch it on water gets
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heated when you don’t use it gets cooled
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and then it gets heated when you need it
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and always you have hot water but the
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open system is like if olden days bucket
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a bucket of cold water we want hot water
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per bath you put a heater yourself and
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when the water is hot you remove the
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heater so you require an outside
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intervention for every mistake in the
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human body that was the original
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thinking of Western medicine but today
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in Ayurveda and that is coming to the
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Western medicine also that eeveelution
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biology tells us that a human system is
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a closed system which when you are born
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the system has got an engrained doctor
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himself which is called the immune
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system so most of the time if not all
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the time
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this doctor cures you
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but in case the doctor fails then only
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symptoms come and you have to go to the
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artificial doctors like me but normally
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if you can keep your immune system good
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and you will be absolutely fine without
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any outside intervention because it is a
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closed system now very interestingly
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this concept is alien to Western
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medicine
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Western medicine thinks it is an open
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system for everything I must interfere
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No
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so Western system is bad but you can
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throw it out lock stock and barrel the
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water is bad so you cannot throw the
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baby away because for quick fixes
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emergency quick fixes like I fall under
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the car let us say break my bowl I can’t
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sell take away the end to your yoga and
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pranayama and get better nor the bones
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will bones will hurt us it supposing I
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become unconscious and I am taken to the
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intensive care unit I require some
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intensive quick fixes but mind you this
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is only 2% of the Sikh population in a
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given day
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98% can do make do with the I rather
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like alternate systems there’s so many
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other systems it is not just either way
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the homeopathy Ayurveda the unani
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Yunnan is a fantastic thing which
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started in Arab countries and it is done
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a lot of progress
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so all these systems are good things so
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there should not be a monopoly for one
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system what we should have is a
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judicious combination of all systems
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where emergency quick fixes come from
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modern medicine Western medicine and all
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other things come from various other
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systems and we have put together a
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system which is called the future
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medicine or what is called meta medicine
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you know Aristotle wrote physics first
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and then psychology next and is called
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metaphysics is psychology meta is after
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so meta medicine is the future medicine
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in the future medicine will have to be
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perforce a combination because Western
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medicine alone has become prohibitively
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expensive and you cannot go on with that
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all that I wanted to make out is that if
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you combine various systems of medicine
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and a judicious combination authenticate
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everything that you do you shouldn’t be
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a quack
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you must authenticate scientifically
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everything that you want to incorporate
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it with this new system called meta
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medicine I think the future is very
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bright for mankind on this planet thank
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you very much
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